Just how official is all of this?
RE3: What's Official? Edit
The canon page needs to be changed. No single scenario is absolute canon, especially where RE2 and Outbreak are concerned. Events from both scenarios in all the games that have multiple scenarios are canon. It is a game, not a linear story. Example; Chris is the one who witnesses Wesker get killed by the Tyrant, but Wesker also really tricks Barry into working for him, which is in Jill's scenario. For the game there might appear to be only one correct scenario, but for the story both scenarios are blended. Another example is that while Sherry was infected in RE2, Ada's falling in the Leon A/Claire B scenario is more likely to be canon, as Leon states in RE4 that Ada is "like a part of me I can't let go." The page needs to be altered to make it clear that there is no single canon scenario; just a scenario that is closer to the canon than the other, but neither is totally complete.Teen Tyrant 18:11, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
This RE2 scenario is canon. Edit
Claire A, Leon B is the canon scenario. Since in RE2's digest it says Sherry was infected and this only happens in Claire A, Leon B.
end of the road Edit
in end of the road canon, it states that david saves linda but fights nyx, but ada fights the tyrant-R so that means that the true ending would be david and linda escape in the helicopter WITHOUT nyx being realeased.The x reaper 13:01, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
possibly how barry survived in RE:1 Edit
although Chris's scenario is canon, there might be a reason why barry is still alive this day. i've only played the Original Resident evil (1996 playstation) so if i make any mistakes between the remake and further ports, please correct me. i remember in Jill's part of the game, Chris didn't make it inside the mantion and Jill, Barry and Wesker herd a gun shot (from kenneth before he is eaten by a zombie), then they all went to investigate besides Wesker, he might of went back outaide and captured Chris and inprisioned him at the bottom of the Mansion. so POSSIBLY, in chris's part of the game, he herd a gun shot which was kenneth, Wesker inprisoned Jill, Barry might of gotten into the mansion abit later and got to the chopper at the last minute. just a sudgestion of how he is still alive. --User:AngusNitro41
What about Code Veronica? Edit
Was none of Code Veronica canon? If they've mentioned Hunk talking to Alfred in Hunk's official story, so how is CV left out?
We don't really need CV. I mean, 1, 2, 3, 4 and Outbreak are notable because their storylines can alter coarse (ie. Rebecca can die in 1 and it affects the ending...but we know she survives). Code: Veronica doesn't have alternating scenarios and so theirs not as much need to include it in the article.Forerunner 23:11, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
RE3 needs more info Edit
well, yeah it does since all it has is that Jill killed Nemesis, but i reakon there should be more info such as which life decisions where canon, did Jill meat Carlos in the hotel or press office?, did Nicholai die from nemesis or got away in the chopper? did Barry Save Carlos and Jill? it needs more infomation! also there should be info on Code veronica since it ain't a spinoff --Angus Nitro
ah, i see, understood. seeing is how your an Admin, could you atleast add a tiny bit of info on Code Veronica? --Angus Nitro
RE1 Canon Edit
The only evidence that Chris' scenario is canon is that Wesker hates Chris? Is that really the only evidence? He could hate him for a million reasons, there seems to be more hard proof saying that Jill's was canon. For instance, Barry's Epilogue in 3 states that he betrayed STARS, and they forgave him. Also Wesker seems to tell more to Jill about his plan, he doesn't even tell Chris that he plans to steal the research and stuff. Is there any other evidence supporting Chris'? Otherwise I think it should be changed to Jill. (Oh and I think this should seriously be unlocked, because this is something that needs constant editing and the revision war is long over). -- Xell Khaar 05:18, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
The really big thing besides Wesker's hating Chris is that Rebecca survives. She does not appear in Jill's game at all.
Barry also survives, though he is missing in Chris's game. Wesker could have easily been blackmailing him long before the mansion incident and could have had him working behind the scenes in the mansion. --Peroxwhy gen 18:35, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
RE 3 canon Edit
The last page of the RE 5 PAL manual gives a history of RE and its says "Jill defeats the Nemesis T-TYpe and escapes with the help of Barry Burton" so it seems he was there. This also opens up the chance that Nicholai also go out of the city before the bombing.
A few things need to be changed/added:
- Resident Evil 1 needs to include infromation from Jill's scenario. As Xell Khaar pointed out, Barry's RE3 epilogue mentions him betraying the others, which only happens in Jill's scenario.
- Resident Evil 3 should be expanded a little. Barry's involvement should be included since the RE5 PAL manual (if not others) says he was there.
- Code: Veronica should be added. Since this article details the canon, REC:V should be included. Forerunner said that it isn't here because the story doesn't alternate but RE4 doesn't either.
- Resident Evil 5 should be included as well.
- Umbrella's End should also be added.
-The 4th Snake 20:50, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- The file about Jill in RE5 states that both she and Chris acted independantly so there is no single canon scenario. Events that only occur for one character (e.g. Chris meeting Rebecca) can be listed as definite while events that occur but differ for both (e.g. Enrico's death) should be listed with both possbilities included. - The 4th Snake 18:35, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Outbreak: Decisions Decisions Yoko cant be there Edit
If you select George(the canon character anyway) it is impossible to have yoko in the group since you can't pick your team which is Kevin and Cindy in this scenario
Perhaps the groups canonically split up? - The 4th Snake 18:35, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
but how would yoko get there?
Has it been confirmed whether or RE:D is canon or not?--Leon1494 18:15, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
- The game was made to bridge the gap between the old series, RE4 and RE5 and was made by CAPCOM so...yes.--
Forerunner 18:24, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Degeneration is canon, considering how Capcom was completely involved in the making of the movie. Kamiya even stated in the interview that Degeneration is Resident Evil 4.5.Dibol 06:23, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
It has been frequently disputed about Gaiden's place in the canon. I have been placing the game under the "Alternate timeline" sections for both the Leon S. Kennedy and Barry Burton articles only to end up in an edit war with Forerunner over this. From my take, as well as an anonymous IP's take on this situation, if one game isn't acknowledged by any of the games in the main series, it should warrant an "alternate timeline" section, as those stories seem to serve more of a "what-if" type of story. As it stands, the ending of the game alone already screamed out that the game is obviously not canon period. As for why it should warrant an "alternate timeline" section, I've already seen another case with a similar series, such as Metal Gear: Ghost Babel's (Metal Gear Solid for the Game Boy Color) relationship with the Metal Gear franchise. Sure, Hideo Kojima and company at Konami was involved with writing and directing the game, but nothing ever mentioned about Snake's second infiltration to Outer Heaven in any of the other games and served more of a "what-if" story.Dibol 06:23, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Nicholai survived Edit
it should be noted that he escaped in the helicopter due to the file from RE: Survivor that he signed 21:36, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
- In the original Japanese localisation, all reports in that file are written by Nicholai with the exception of the final report. The final report was written AFTER October 1st.-- Forerunner 21:57, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
can we just accept that he lived? because isnt one of the main themes in the RE series to escape with as many characters alive as possible?
Yes, but NOT when it involves villains.
Nicholai did escape with the helicopter and made it out alive. why? well if you finished Decisions Decisions on Resident Evil: OUTBREAK (with any ending, doesn't matter). after the credits are finished, you see a cutscene of raccoon city completely blown up, then you can hear Nicholai speaking to one of the reasearchers on the phone. so this makes it that Jill didn't blow him up with the rocket launcher in RE3 -- User:AngusNitro41
more details Edit
after you defeat Nemesis (when jill gets infected by the T-virus), Carlos takes Jill to a room for her to rest and says " It looks like our roles have been reversed from when we originally met huh?". so that means that they met in the sales office and it happens in any path you choose from up to there. and Jill finished off Nemesis with the Magnum before Barry saves her as stated in the RE5 manual
also in the ending of End of the road in RE: OUTBREAK file#2 (saving linda or not, chopper ending or truck ending, doesn't matter) i THINK you can see Cindy in her "ON VACCATION" outfit with the remaining survivours looking at Raccon City geting nuked. was she in the chopper or something or followed David during the whol scenario?
lastly, George's ending is canon in Decisions Decisions since Yoko, ain't with him when you pick him for that level (your forced to have Cindy and kevin with you) --Angus Nitro
Lone Wolf Edit
Perhaps Lone Wolf is the canon for Outbreak? I mean...the cutscenes that make it to the cutscene library are ones that exclude the other survivors. If this happened only when watching from the Library, that makes sense... but for cutscenes to completely exclude the other survivors if present in-game... that's notable.
What 'bout zero? Hallooooo? Am I blinded by the massives of information here or this one is really not presented?--Wesser 19:28, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- There is no point in a Zero section. This article deals with when you could travel different paths, or which scenario is canon. These altering paths ceased after three games, Zero was not one of them.-- Forerunner 19:37, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Wow? why then you do talk on da REC:V & RE5? They also are...--Wesser 19:47, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, ma companion, more enlighted on this matter (seriously). I also don't want to irritate you with my idle talks, but i'ma not wondering at the talk page - if ye don't mind... I am confused by the article itself--Wesser 20:00, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
Another question: missing stuff is obviously canonic or obviously not?--Wesser 10:34, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
- Neither. Unlisted stuff are games with linear gameplay, no "alternate paths" and no "alternative character scenario". Resident Evils 4 and 5 fit perfectly into this, along with Code: Veronica. The reason for the page's existence is written at the top of the article.-- Forerunner 13:00, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Can I suggest, speaking politely, to... change somehow the "top of the article"? 'Cause just shaking the bonebag of personal thoughts on a matter of Canon can confuse those willing to get familiar with the entire series or have gaps due to not having all the instolements played (this is ME). I mean.. in sense of bringing in consensual:) table of Canon with the respect of Wiki "nature"...--Wesser 14:45, 7 August 2009 (UTC)