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Genesjs

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June 3, 2010
  • I live in Where you least expect me
  • I was born on October 22
  • My occupation is Hopeless House Cat
  • I am Figure it out; entertain me with your answer
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  • Hi Genesjs. It's me, PsychoShark fro Sonic News Network. The reason I'm contacting you here instead of over on SNN is because I'm currently unable to do so, as Journalistic decided to infinitely block me over a mild scuffle.

    Now y'see, Journalistic blocked me from editing infinitely and banned me from chat infinitely as penalty for having an avatar that he felt violated the Terms of Use, and I do not believe his decisions were just. I know that you're a sensible guy, so I'm here to ask you for your own thoughts on the matter.


    Allow me to explain to you what led to my blocking and banning and why I think these penalties should be lifted and eased-up-upon, respectively.

    Three days ago on chat some of us were talking about how the Confederate Flag is not necessarily a symbol of racism, but rather a symbol of cultural heritage.

    So, BlueSpeeder played around a bit by changing his Avatar to the Confederate Flag. We all shared a good laugh about it.

    Then I, in the jist of all this Flag-Avatar-Fun changed my avatar to the ISIS Flag. After a while Speeder changed back to his old avatar, but I decided to keep the ISIS Flag Avatar because I kinda' liked the way it looked. I know that ISIS kills people and stuff, but I just gotta' love their flag design with it's white circle and black background. Iunno, I'm a sucker for black and white designs.

    Now, everyone at chat at the time knew that I didn't mean anything criminal by it, they knew I was just using it because I liked the design.


    The next day, I logged onto chat again, and Journalistic was in there that day.

    Now, Journalistic didn't like me having that avatar, he thought it violated the Terms of Use because it condoned criminal behavior. I told him that I didn't really think it was criminal behavior that it condoned, because I know that there are two sides to every war and ISIS is just on the other side than the US is. But Journalistic didn't agree with my view and told me again to change my avatar.

    I then suggested the idea of changing it so that it featured the US Flag on the top half, and the ISIS Flag in the bottom half. This way it would not be condoning criminal behavior, but simply be symbolizing the conflicts between the two opposing sides in a neutral fashion.

    Again, Journalistic didn't agree with me, and he asked me once again to change my Avatar. By the time all of this had happened, about 15 minutes had passed. Journalistic said that if I didn't make a change within the next few minutes he would ban me from chat. He gave absolutely no mention of the ban being 'Infinite'.

    My usual avatar is stored on a USB drive, and it would have probably taken me a while to go find it. So I decided to just search the web for a new avatar instead.

    Because Journalistic said he wanted me to take down the ISIS FLAG avatar, I thought it'd be funny to replace it with a picture of Osama Bin Laden smiling as a joke. It wasn't a flag anymore, it was just Osama Bin Laden. Hah-hah-funny.


    With that little joke over, I got serious and began searching to pick out a real avatar to use. So, I decided to change my avatar to this cute picture of the character Salamon from 'Digimon'. dma.wtw-x.net/DMA/DigimonStand…

    I went back to the Wiki to make the change, only to find that Journalistic's patience had run dry and that I had already been banned from chat infinitely and blocked from editing infinitely.

    I was absolutely baffled by the fact that he would ban me INFINITELY over our scuffle. Sure, ban me from chat for a month or two, but banning me INFINITELY? That's just ridiculously out of proportions.

    But what I found to be just plain odd is that he would block me from EDITING. Seriously, banning me from chat for a while is completely reasonable, but why block me from editing? Blocking someone from editing is for people who vandalize pages, like if someone changed [ [ Sonic The Hedgehog ] ] to [ [ Sonic The Boner ] ] or something like that, and I had done nothing of the sort.

    Anyways, I found that I couldn't even edit my own talk page, so I had to go to my page on Gravity Falls Wiki to change the avatar.

    Journalistic had a page on Gravity Falls Wiki as well, so I tried to contact him there and inform him that since my Avatar had been changed there was no longer any issue and therefore no need for any banning. But Journalistic, stubborn as he is, would simply not listen to reason.

    And that's why I've come to you, Genesjs. I know you're a sensible guy, and I'm sure that you'll be able to see this reasonably.

    I understand why other people thought that using the ISIS Flag as an avatar was inappropriate, and made the decision to change it BEFORE my block, I simply couldn't find a replacement-avatar by the time of Journalistic's brash actions.

    I simply do not think that an infinite-ban or an infinite-block is a reasonable penalty for what transpired.

    I'm not saying that I don't deserve to be penalized, because I know that I do, I'm just saying that the penalization that was dealt was completely out of proportions.

    I ask you to restore my rights to edit pages, as I had committed no acts of vandalism on any pages.

    As for chat, I still think that being banned infinitely is an unreasonable consequence. Now I understand that what I did was inappropriate and don't expect to have my ban immediately lifted, but I ask that it be changed to a temporary time-frame. A month or two, I believe would be a just consequence. Maybe three. Does that sound about right?

    I thank you for your time.

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    • Sorry for the late response -- I've been busy. I'm looking into this right now. At the very least, I'll see if I can lessen your sentence, because the overall context of the situation doesn't fully agree with me. I'll keep you posted whenever I have anything to share. Just be aware that I can't make any promises here -- meaning that if any parties I were to discuss this with feel your ban is entirely justified and I can't sway them to think otherwise, then there's nothing I can do from that point on. The situation you described to me resulting around currently controversial topics doesn't help matters. Either way, I'll see what I can do.

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    • I just got done talking to Journalistic about this issue. He says he's gonna consider shortening your ban. I do have a few questions regarding some of what you told me, however -- but that will have to wait for another day, when I can respond, possibly tomorrow. Have a good day.

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    • Alright, thanks for the help, Gen. I really appreciate it.

      Got questions? Fire away, ask me anything.

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  • Remember when I said that there were blatant insults to James Holmes and a user got called a "jack@$$" by an admin? I know Holmes did a terrible thing, and I would insult him IRL, but insults aren't the answer on SNN. The fact that users insult people who aren't users or family (that we know of, anyway) but can't insult users on SNN seems like we're making ourselves better than them.

    Also, I know Wikia is community based, but if you're going to make a rule, you might aswell make it consistent.

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    • Read it.

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    • Ok.

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  • What Is Your Favorite RE game?

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